A Visit to Caroeiro

[maddi]

Benchmark

The changing face of Leicester is one of the places to watch for the future shape of Britain's ethnic minorities.

Almost 30% of the midland's city's population were non-white in 1991. One manifestation of this is that the city's Sikhs and Hindus hold the biggest Diwali celebrations outside India.

The local council’s analysis of school pupil figures suggests that white people will be in the minority by 2011.

Not sure what guest means by "Benchmark" but assuming it matches my understanding of the word and Leicester is being used to show us the current state of play in terms of the minority ethnic demographic in the uk then I do feel the need to redress the balance somewhat.

The most up to date officially released figures are from the 2001 Census which says that 87.5 per cent of the population of England and Wales described themselves as white British (seven out of eight people). In Scotland this increased to 98 percent of the population.


The 12.5% who describe themselves as something other white british are made up as follows:-
24% Indian, 16% Pakistani, 15% mixed european, 12% Black Caribbean, 10% Black African, 6% Bangladeshi, 5% each chinese, other asian and other with 2% Black other.

And to take us back to the original queries around the muslim faith in particular - or was the less articulate guest suggesting all ethnic minority faiths are likely to support fanatical islamic extremists - In England, 3.1 per cent of the population state their religion as Muslim, making this the most common religion after Christianity. This proportion is smaller compared to other European countries for example, the percentage of Muslims in Holland (4.4 per cent), France (5 per cent) or Germany (3.7 per cent).

That's 3.1% who are muslim already a tiny figure compared to other faiths - now what percentage of that are likely to hold extremist views ?

[Guest]

[quote="Bruxinha"]Digger, how did you know my dad's got a roller?

Mummy Bruxy, don't want to worry anyone i.e. I know dad's roller is automatic but should it have YOGI behind the wheel playing your Bay City Rollers extremely loud I might add.

By the way Yogi and me are half black and German, with English parents but you loved us don't you mum, as does the rest of the family.

[Bruxinha]

Looks like someone has been on the cooking sherry again

I do apologise to the rest of you trying to have a serious debate.

[Johnny Boy]

Thes nowt wrong in being a Mongrel There best suet, Pardon my Yorkshire

[Bruxinha]

Thes nowt wrong in being a Mongrel

Couldn't agree more Johnny Boy

[Guest]

That's 3.1% who are muslim already a tiny figure compared to other faiths - now what percentage of that are likely to hold extremist views ?

I suppose that equates to about 1.5 million people.

In N.Ireland there are about 600000 catholics and that group were able to have enough extremists in their midst to cause absolute chaos for 30+ years. As has been shown by the recent developments over here it doesnt take a lot of people to mount a campaign

I don't think numbers of people will be a limiting factoir, I think it will be the availability of weapons, explosives and terrorist skills which will influence the level of violence, coupled of course with the intelligence gathering. If history were to repeat itself then it is understandable that there would in time be a significant reciprocal campaign mounted against the Muslim faith by extremists with diametricaaly opposite views

Just regarding the overall representation, of course it is a very small proportion of the population, but since they tend to group together in discreet areas then their presence seems much stronger and in those areas they certainly will, or may even have, a majority

[pm]

Terrorism (as you call it because you are on the 'other' side) is political rather than religious.
In WW2, the French resistance (who are called freedom fighters because they were on 'our' side) were largely Catholic as apposed to the largely Protestant German invaders. I don't recall any claims that they were fighting for religious reasons.

[april]

Well, it took me about 15 minutes to read all those posts-and all the girl wanted to know was-could she walk around in shorts!!!!! I dont know if its still so, but until recently you couldnt walk down the street in Jersey without a shirt (male) and you couldnt get on public transport wearing a sleeveless vest.. There was no dancing allowed on a sunday - you could go into a nightclub but they usually put a buffet on and sometimes they allowed you to sway about a ibt as long as you only moved the top of yourbody- but as soon as you moved a foot the bouncer would come over and warn you!!!!!!! There was also something about if a couple split up the man automatically got custody of the kids- because the woman was deemed to be incapable and a harlot!
About flip flops - do you know the Australians call them thongs- that causes me a bit of confusion i tell you - but if i have a heel on my flip flops which i often do- as i have a bit of a thing about shoes - well i'm a girl after all- I then call them mules.

[B2D]

until recently you couldnt walk down the street in Jersey without a shirt (male).

good for Jersey - I think ALL men should wear shirts in public - it's BLEUAGH. I think the muscly ones are the worst.