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Bad Driving
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Guest
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Guest
I couldn't be bothered frankly.
So this guest either fills guests up with booze and watches them drive off ('Oh go on, have another glass' 'You are surely going to have one for the road'), or watches people down half a bottle of wine and then weave off to their cars at the golf club. And seems to think this is perfectly reasonable behaviour.
Doesn't this sound like the old ex-pats stuffed to the gills on cheap booze scenario. Why don't you find something more imaginative to do with your time?
I can't think of anyone in my circle of friends who would have more than a glass of wine if they were driving. And I'm sure that if anyone had too much to drink and proposed driving, someone would get a taxi.
So this guest either fills guests up with booze and watches them drive off ('Oh go on, have another glass' 'You are surely going to have one for the road'), or watches people down half a bottle of wine and then weave off to their cars at the golf club. And seems to think this is perfectly reasonable behaviour.
Doesn't this sound like the old ex-pats stuffed to the gills on cheap booze scenario. Why don't you find something more imaginative to do with your time?
I can't think of anyone in my circle of friends who would have more than a glass of wine if they were driving. And I'm sure that if anyone had too much to drink and proposed driving, someone would get a taxi.
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petermeachem
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Why are you all so set on preventing drunk people driving?
There are drivers out there that are on a much worse trip than alcohol...
What about the guy who just got fired....or dumped....or cheated on? There are people behind the wheels of cars that are in a momentary emotional state that would justify a padded cell.
I nearly got run into the barriers on the cascais motorway because of a guy (married, 2 kids) who had just had a nightmare at work and was driving like the devil herself.
The reason I know this.....he got so pissed off with me that he followed me all the way to the toll booths in Carcavelos to jump out of his car and threaten to beat me up. I managed to talk him out of it (close proximity of the GNR building and frantic toll booth attendants probably saved my neck).
Note that this whole scenario was in evening traffic, nobody was even able to go faster than 80 or 90 Kmh and the reason he was so annoyed was that I changed lanes infront of him without indicating....
There are drivers out there that are on a much worse trip than alcohol...
What about the guy who just got fired....or dumped....or cheated on? There are people behind the wheels of cars that are in a momentary emotional state that would justify a padded cell.
I nearly got run into the barriers on the cascais motorway because of a guy (married, 2 kids) who had just had a nightmare at work and was driving like the devil herself.
The reason I know this.....he got so pissed off with me that he followed me all the way to the toll booths in Carcavelos to jump out of his car and threaten to beat me up. I managed to talk him out of it (close proximity of the GNR building and frantic toll booth attendants probably saved my neck).
Note that this whole scenario was in evening traffic, nobody was even able to go faster than 80 or 90 Kmh and the reason he was so annoyed was that I changed lanes infront of him without indicating....
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nosey_parker
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- Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:55 pm
Ok, surely there are many things that can affect people's driving: bad day at work, lack of sleep, medication...but drinking and speeding is something people should avoid at all costs . Unfortunately, other factors cannot be controlled as easily.
My partner had an accident a couple of months ago. He did not hurt anyone apart from himself and the car is gone (repair is not possible). He doesn't even know how it happened...he lost control of the car. He'd had two bottles of beer. I wouldn't think the accident was caused by that but he had to go to hospital and spend the night.
The police requested alcohol test to the hospital, which we are still waiting for. If the two beers mean he was over the limit allowed by law, we won't get a penny back from our car insurance. But the worst of it all is having the police ringing you telling you that your loved one just hand an accident.
The world comes to a halt. It's just horrible. My partner was lucky and I'm lucky he's well, and if he gets fined and we lose the insurance money, then so be it. I hope this makes him more responsible regarding drinking and driving.
If you can't think of your own well being and safety spare a thought to your loved ones and how much you mean to them.
My partner had an accident a couple of months ago. He did not hurt anyone apart from himself and the car is gone (repair is not possible). He doesn't even know how it happened...he lost control of the car. He'd had two bottles of beer. I wouldn't think the accident was caused by that but he had to go to hospital and spend the night.
The police requested alcohol test to the hospital, which we are still waiting for. If the two beers mean he was over the limit allowed by law, we won't get a penny back from our car insurance. But the worst of it all is having the police ringing you telling you that your loved one just hand an accident.
The world comes to a halt. It's just horrible. My partner was lucky and I'm lucky he's well, and if he gets fined and we lose the insurance money, then so be it. I hope this makes him more responsible regarding drinking and driving.
If you can't think of your own well being and safety spare a thought to your loved ones and how much you mean to them.
Driving schools are the ones responsible for who is driving on the road - this is where the first steps have to be taken:
In the wrong hands a car is a dangerous weapon comparable to a fire arm.
This is not brough across enough in driving schools.
I would suggest implementation of further education to increase awareness.
Secondly, legislation always picks up at the wrong end - the aim usually being a money-making scheme and utterly useless when it comes to actually preventing accidents:
Instead of lowering tolerance levels and increasing fines, they should think about who they are letting onto the roads in the first place.
For instance, people who have know psychological disorders that cause aggression, emotional instability or reduces motoric abilities should be subjected to limitations, eg. allowed engine size or max speed.
There are plenty more models and equally many lobbies to prevent implementation because there would be loss of income for somebody...
In the wrong hands a car is a dangerous weapon comparable to a fire arm.
This is not brough across enough in driving schools.
I would suggest implementation of further education to increase awareness.
Secondly, legislation always picks up at the wrong end - the aim usually being a money-making scheme and utterly useless when it comes to actually preventing accidents:
Instead of lowering tolerance levels and increasing fines, they should think about who they are letting onto the roads in the first place.
For instance, people who have know psychological disorders that cause aggression, emotional instability or reduces motoric abilities should be subjected to limitations, eg. allowed engine size or max speed.
There are plenty more models and equally many lobbies to prevent implementation because there would be loss of income for somebody...
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Guest
Sadly it is true what Guest says about the drink drive mentality here in the Algarve...don't care what the few say.....it is very common to see all the (Sorry this is not aimed at any race) workmen out on building sites where I live having a real good lunch with a Caraf (How to spell that) of cheapy wine and then drive off back to work...where I live in the outback I see this every day..........I also see it very often at the club (Golf)....It's a fact.....I wish it were not so...but it it is fact...
Roads
They are right about the rain - 2,224 accidents with only 21 killed and 61 seriously injured last week!
A Brigada de Trânsito da GNR (BT) registou na semana que terminou este domingo, entre os dias 16 e 22, 2.224 acidentes nas estradas portuguesas, dos quais resultaram 21 mortos e 61 feridos graves, indicou esta segunda-feira a BT em comunicado.
A Brigada de Trânsito da GNR (BT) registou na semana que terminou este domingo, entre os dias 16 e 22, 2.224 acidentes nas estradas portuguesas, dos quais resultaram 21 mortos e 61 feridos graves, indicou esta segunda-feira a BT em comunicado.
