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LOCAL SHOPS
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nightrider
tbbr,tbbr wrote:Assume guest you live in The UK, never want to live anywhere else, whenever you go on holiday complain about the food, prices. locals, weather etc etc etc.
The German economy will be one of the fastest growing in Europe in 2006.
towing along with it Holland, Belgium and those countries like Poland and Slovakia whose low cost manufacturing supplies Germany
The UK will slip further down the table of economic performance.
But don,t worry everyone who used to have a decent job in manufacturing can work the night shift and macdonalds, KFC or their local Tesco express for £5.50/hr
With respect we have German friends who live in the Algarve and also retain a property in Germany.....they tell us that since "the wall" came down ...ordinary German peoples lifestyles have not improved as you are suggesting..in that West Germans have had to bear the burden of all the hand outs to the less skilled East Germans etc.! I honestly, feel as I am quite sure anyone with a brain cell in their head knows perfectly well, that we cannot take word for word and/or figures that are shifted around by governements and then reported by the media..... in order to disguise the "real" truth etc . A bit like people selling land and/or property in the Algarve and offering the carrot to the would be purchaser... yes they say you can earn a lot of money by "letting" your property when your not using it yourself" really....ask a reputable and well established renting/management company in the Algarve...they will tell you the truth and as for buying any land and/or development from anyone else that is not a Reg AMI Estate Agent here in Portugal, well personally, I would never entertain such a risky transaction etc.
Therefore, my message is don't take everything you read and are told as the truth.....go and check out the information for yourself.
Nightrider.
I know a little about the situation in what was west germany having worked for a company tha was once German owned and still does a large amount of its business there.
The recent rise in Eurobank interest rates was influenced in no small part by the " improving " economy in Germany and its subsequent effect on Euro inflation.
This has an obviously negative effect on the poorer countries such as Portugal.
But is is a fact that despite its high labour costs, and social costs Germany is once again on the economic Up. It is also a fact thst this would improve if they had a more relaxed atitude to regulations .
But this has got nothing to do with my original question.
Where are they and what type of small shops service the community in the CVO/lagoa area.
Who are the good ones etc ???
The recent rise in Eurobank interest rates was influenced in no small part by the " improving " economy in Germany and its subsequent effect on Euro inflation.
This has an obviously negative effect on the poorer countries such as Portugal.
But is is a fact that despite its high labour costs, and social costs Germany is once again on the economic Up. It is also a fact thst this would improve if they had a more relaxed atitude to regulations .
But this has got nothing to do with my original question.
Where are they and what type of small shops service the community in the CVO/lagoa area.
Who are the good ones etc ???
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Guest
tbbr,
Frankly, what are you talking about?
Nightrider
ps and by the way.... when people have answered your various questions and then ask you questions in return...it is noted that more often than not no reply is received? Therefore, such a situation would appear and I am extremely sorry to say so...somewhat all take and no give..
N.R.
Frankly, what are you talking about?
Nightrider
ps and by the way.... when people have answered your various questions and then ask you questions in return...it is noted that more often than not no reply is received? Therefore, such a situation would appear and I am extremely sorry to say so...somewhat all take and no give..
N.R.
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nightrider
Sorry forgot to sign in above although did use my N.R.Anonymous wrote:tbbr,
Frankly, what are you talking about?
Nightrider
ps and by the way.... when people have answered your various questions and then ask you questions in return...it is noted that more often than not no reply is received? Therefore, such a situation would appear and I am extremely sorry to say so...somewhat all take and no give..
N.R.
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Guest
Re: LOCAL SHOPS
tbbr wrote:There is a letter in this weeks Resident " on line " suggesting that local retail outlets should be used as there are signs of smaller shops closing down.
I admit that one of the frst things we do on arrival is head for continente to stock up.
Knowing little of other choices available I would welcome the views of " residents ".
Are the vegetables, fish, groceries etc easily obtained ?
Are they better value.
Where is the best place to buy Markets ??
As back here the good local shop is now as rare as hens teeth as is the bread van.
As some time in late 06/07 we hope to be spending a good part of the year in CV we would appreciate ideas of where to get not just the best value but also the best produce.
Not impressed with Intermarche.
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Guest
sorry dont know what im doing with quotes.
any tbbr you wanted an answer so here it is
q1 yes
q2 no
q3 dont understand your english..do you want to buy a market
or do you want to know which market to buy things (presume foodstuffs)
if it is the last ..then portimao market every month (non food) or the daily market in lagoa or silves for fish and fruit
happy shopping
any tbbr you wanted an answer so here it is
q1 yes
q2 no
q3 dont understand your english..do you want to buy a market
or do you want to know which market to buy things (presume foodstuffs)
if it is the last ..then portimao market every month (non food) or the daily market in lagoa or silves for fish and fruit
happy shopping
We make a point of supporting our local businesses as much as possible and while we do our weekly shop in the supermarkets, we do use our nearest small local store on a daily basis. We find our nearest one friendly, and considering there is no way they can compete with the supermarkets we have never felt we were being ripped off.....and they open reasonable hours.
tbbr wrote:ITs very simple, I have not had any detailed response to my original question.
Had same problem with an earlier request re " second hand cars ".
Thought this forum was a scource of info, enjoyable as the debates sometimes are.
tbbr, you are asking the same type of question....it's too open ended....Had same problem with an earlier request re " second hand cars ".
tbbr wrote:There is a letter in this weeks Resident " on line " suggesting that local retail outlets should be used as there are signs of smaller shops closing down.
I admit that one of the frst things we do on arrival is head for continente to stock up.
Knowing little of other choices available I would welcome the views of " residents ".
Are the vegetables, fish, groceries etc easily obtained ?
Are they better value.
Where is the best place to buy Markets ??
As back here the good local shop is now as rare as hens teeth as is the bread van.
As some time in late 06/07 we hope to be spending a good part of the year in CV we would appreciate ideas of where to get not just the best value but also the best produce.
Not impressed with Intermarche.
Are the vegetables, fish, groceries etc easily obtained?Knowing little of other choices available I would welcome the views of " residents ".
Are the vegetables, fish, groceries etc easily obtained ?
Are they better value.
Where is the best place to buy Markets ??
Judging from the responses, if you want quick and easy groceries, it's best to shop the bigger store and avoid the locals as their clock seems to run on a diffrent time than yours.
Are they better value.
That depends on where you place your values, doesn't it?
If you value your time, the big stores are the place to go.
If you value the process of finding, selecting, preparing, cooking and eating food that you have invested a good deal of time in... then haunt the back streets where the little shops that the tourists don't find are.
If you are talking about monetary value, the big stores seem to be the best bet in the long run.
btw, why is "residents" in qoutation marks?
Good Morning. Read with interest the comments above from yesterday afternoon/evening.
i) Agree that the best place to buy fresh veg, fruit, fish etc is the local indoor markets, if you have the time to go during the day before lunch, as remember they are more or less shut up after this time. Also a great place to catch up on all the local gossip, if you speak Portuguese.
ii) I think what e-llen does is very commendable and agree with her comments. However, if you are on a limited budget, they tend to be very expensive. Well my local village one is at least.
iii) I couldn't care less if someone wants to work 2 or 20 hours a day. I mean I am an expert of doing what I want. But then those that work, as and when they want, musn't complain that they aren't doing well and don't have enough money. I was just highlighting the world here, as I see it and the differences in attitude to business and customer service. The comments were not meant to be in any way judgemental.
iv) I think I am more pro-Portugal than most "foreigners" that come here/live here. Because I am bothering to learn to Portuguese, have made many Portuguese friends, go into their homes, bars, cafés and chat to a huge variety of people from bank managers to orange farmers and get to know what their lives and problems are. "Foreigners", especially those that don't live here on a regular basis, tend to have a utopic view of Portugal, which isn't reality on the street. Some "foreigners" also come to Portugal and rob the country, by being shady and not paying in the coffers in the correct manner, shall we say. They are the most anti-Portuguese people I know.
v) Guests, it would help, if even if you want to remain "anonymous" to use some guest name for a particular thread, so at least we know which "guest" we are speaking to. Thank you.
i) Agree that the best place to buy fresh veg, fruit, fish etc is the local indoor markets, if you have the time to go during the day before lunch, as remember they are more or less shut up after this time. Also a great place to catch up on all the local gossip, if you speak Portuguese.
ii) I think what e-llen does is very commendable and agree with her comments. However, if you are on a limited budget, they tend to be very expensive. Well my local village one is at least.
iii) I couldn't care less if someone wants to work 2 or 20 hours a day. I mean I am an expert of doing what I want. But then those that work, as and when they want, musn't complain that they aren't doing well and don't have enough money. I was just highlighting the world here, as I see it and the differences in attitude to business and customer service. The comments were not meant to be in any way judgemental.
iv) I think I am more pro-Portugal than most "foreigners" that come here/live here. Because I am bothering to learn to Portuguese, have made many Portuguese friends, go into their homes, bars, cafés and chat to a huge variety of people from bank managers to orange farmers and get to know what their lives and problems are. "Foreigners", especially those that don't live here on a regular basis, tend to have a utopic view of Portugal, which isn't reality on the street. Some "foreigners" also come to Portugal and rob the country, by being shady and not paying in the coffers in the correct manner, shall we say. They are the most anti-Portuguese people I know.
v) Guests, it would help, if even if you want to remain "anonymous" to use some guest name for a particular thread, so at least we know which "guest" we are speaking to. Thank you.
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nightrider
Ditto to the above already comments:- It would be extremely helpful if when a Guest is posting...that said Guest could at least say GuestFred, GuestFroggie or whatever....... because it gets so confusing.....when you you have two or three or more different guests posting on the same post...and therefore, of course the situation becomes....that your not sure on what Guest is saying what....confused....join the club
When you reside in Portugal sometimes you have to travel to find things ......and quality and price is what the individual is prepared to pay.....then of course there are over heads such as getting to such places i.e fuel etc...I live in Silves or near to and for example I have just arrived back from the UK bringing back as much as I possibly(like we all do who live here) could (we paid excess too). Why because a) it was a lot cheaper and 2) and/or cannot be acquired in Portugal. Furthermore, next week we are going to drive over to Almancil to Apolonia (Supermarket) which compared to other supermarkets is expensive...why am I putting myself to this inconvenience....because it's Christmas and I can acquire and therefore stock up on such items as herbs and for Christmas purchase hopefully, such things as parsnips etc all of which one has great difficulty acquiring here. The drive is about 40mins..so you see I would not frequent this supermarket on a daily basis.
To sum up.... tbbr... those of us who live out here, know only full well that the choices are very limited compared to the UK and other countries. But...don't get me wrong there are a lot of good things about Portugal and the Algarve...but shopping of any description is not one of them.Nightrider being serious.
When you reside in Portugal sometimes you have to travel to find things ......and quality and price is what the individual is prepared to pay.....then of course there are over heads such as getting to such places i.e fuel etc...I live in Silves or near to and for example I have just arrived back from the UK bringing back as much as I possibly(like we all do who live here) could (we paid excess too). Why because a) it was a lot cheaper and 2) and/or cannot be acquired in Portugal. Furthermore, next week we are going to drive over to Almancil to Apolonia (Supermarket) which compared to other supermarkets is expensive...why am I putting myself to this inconvenience....because it's Christmas and I can acquire and therefore stock up on such items as herbs and for Christmas purchase hopefully, such things as parsnips etc all of which one has great difficulty acquiring here. The drive is about 40mins..so you see I would not frequent this supermarket on a daily basis.
To sum up.... tbbr... those of us who live out here, know only full well that the choices are very limited compared to the UK and other countries. But...don't get me wrong there are a lot of good things about Portugal and the Algarve...but shopping of any description is not one of them.Nightrider being serious.
I put " residents" in this form as with just a few exceptions it is not clear how many of the contributors or guests have the detailed knowledge that Nightrider , Bruxhina and some others clearly have.
This in depth knowledge can only come from full time residence and not just a few weeks of the year ( like us ).
I agree that we do view the prospect of spending far more time in the Algarve with an idealistic view and part of that is looking for alternatives to the superstores.
As to being accused of asking " open Questions " this comes from a lifetimes commercial experience at the very least it usually gets a response in some form.
Thanks to all who have responed positively since last night.
This in depth knowledge can only come from full time residence and not just a few weeks of the year ( like us ).
I agree that we do view the prospect of spending far more time in the Algarve with an idealistic view and part of that is looking for alternatives to the superstores.
As to being accused of asking " open Questions " this comes from a lifetimes commercial experience at the very least it usually gets a response in some form.
Thanks to all who have responed positively since last night.
