LOCAL SHOPS

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LOCAL SHOPS

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There is a letter in this weeks Resident " on line " suggesting that local retail outlets should be used as there are signs of smaller shops closing down.
I admit that one of the frst things we do on arrival is head for continente to stock up.

Knowing little of other choices available I would welcome the views of " residents ".
Are the vegetables, fish, groceries etc easily obtained ?
Are they better value.
Where is the best place to buy Markets ??

As back here the good local shop is now as rare as hens teeth as is the bread van.
As some time in late 06/07 we hope to be spending a good part of the year in CV we would appreciate ideas of where to get not just the best value but also the best produce.
Not impressed with Intermarche.
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yes well supporting local shops might be nice, but I am sorry to say that small shops in portugal could be far more business minded - they shut for two hours at lunch, open about 9 or 9 30 shut at 7 and they close on saturday afteroons and on holidays and sometimes close for 3 weeks while they bring new stock in!

now if they want to compete, maybe they could open a little longer and try a little harder
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Post by Franky Obstacle »

You mean bring them into line the same as the country you come from? Thats the way they do things here, get over it!
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Anonymous wrote: local shops and sometimes close for 3 weeks while they bring new stock in!
ALGARVE DRUMS NEWSPAPER:- 16 December 2005: Front Page:_
ATTENTION, ATTENTION ALL YOU DIY EXPERTS...NEW STOCK ON ORDER...NEW STOCK ON ORDER...ALLEGED TO ARRIVE IN 3 WEEKS...IN 3 WEEKS......NEXT QUESTION...WHERE...WHERE.....WHERE........
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Post by Bruxinha »

I am sure that shopping in the markets for fresh produce is a lot cheaper than the big supermarkets. It is what most of the Portuguese do. However, some of the smaller supermarkets are really expensive. For example, Alisuper in Silves is very expensive compared to Modelo in Silves. I notice that a lot of shops open up in Silves e.g. small boutiques etc but they never last long.

Unfortunately, it is the way of the world. The big shopping malls in every country seem to be squeezing out the small "high streets". We are all to blame because we all like convenience. Our lives our busy and so most people do not want to spend 2 or 3 hours going to various shops to get your bits and bobs, when they can spend 1 hour in a big hypermarket and get everything in one go and park the car easily to boot.

I love little shops and small shopping lanes like you get in Brighton or Malaga (the city not the tacky tourist resort) but unless we change the way we live our lives, I don't see things changing
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and also perhaps when you buy thing from small shops and you want a refund or an exchange it is very hard,
a lesson here - from worten modelos lidl, you want your money back
- si senor

as for franklly obstacle, it has nothing to do with customer service or being like another country., small shops in portugal should win hands down
compared to the big chains for service and opening hours, they dont because they really cant be bothered. always find interesting that newspapers shops in uk open at 7 am - in portugal 10ish when they start to put the papers out

when I was in s africa all corner shops were run by portuguese (like indian shops in uk) - they were always open 18 hours a day and gave good service
now if portuguese can do it s africa why cant they do it here?
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Post by Bruxinha »

You do see a big difference between some of the small shops and businesses, where the attitude seems to be "the customer is an inconvenience" to say, Modelo, where they have obviously been trained in customer service and are in general pleasant and helpful.

There was a story doing the rounds in Silves about a small, local shop that made bread. The bread was so good that people from far away came there to buy it. The shop and the bread became more and more popular and they could hardly keep up with demand. So what do you think they did? Open another shop...expand the business in the bread baking area perhaps? NO, they stopped making the bread because they said it was just too much hassle! :shock:
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Post by tbbr »

Should have known better,

Ask a simple question and what happens ( 2 guests ) the usual hardly pro portuguese responses.

If a shopkeeper can make a living opening 8 hrs aday instead of 18 GOOD for him.

Maybe its those who lead such poorly planned lives that they need to buy at 10.00 pm who have the problem.
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whats up with you tbbr? No Im wrong youre being your usual antagonistic self.
Some of us have to work very long hours and need to shop odd hours.I agree with the likes of Bruxinha that its about time Algarve,Portugal got its act together!!
They can be lazy and couldnt care less at times and before you say anything thats being honest not negative!
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Quite agree tbbr. Guest, it's your choice to work long hours! Why do you think that that means that shopkeepers should work long hours too?

And perhaps Bruxy the breadmakers had a good point. Perhaps they were happy that they were making enough money and didn't see any reason to do extra work for extra money they didn't need.
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Post by tbbr »

" Live to work " or " Work to Live "

Spent over 25 years doing the one Now looking fwd to the other.

Shops staying open for 18 hrs day, paying the workers min wage ( if they are lucky ) is not " getting your act together ".

Try finding anything open in Germany or Holland after 5.00pm sat and all day sunday.

These are well developed wealthy counntries, have they got it wrong as well ??
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Probably.Unemployment figures are very high in Germany.
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Assume guest you live in The UK, never want to live anywhere else, whenever you go on holiday complain about the food, prices. locals, weather etc etc etc.

The German economy will be one of the fastest growing in Europe in 2006.
towing along with it Holland, Belgium and those countries like Poland and Slovakia whose low cost manufacturing supplies Germany
The UK will slip further down the table of economic performance.

But don,t worry everyone who used to have a decent job in manufacturing can work the night shift and macdonalds, KFC or their local Tesco express for £5.50/hr
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Dont talk wet tbbr and you assume to much.
But I fogot.Silly me. You are the font of all knowledge especially where Portugals concerned! :roll:
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Post by tbbr »

I Just read newspapers and listen to the decent radio and TV channels.

As for assuming too much I am beginning to suspect ( as have others )
that some of our " guests " may not be " guests " in the true sense of the word !!!
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