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[widge]

It would appear that there are no definitive answers to the questions raised yet. Suggest the topic is dropped until some more reliable information surfaces or do as sunman suggests and retire to the BBQ.

[joeysoap]

It would appear that there are no definitive answers to the questions raised yet. Suggest the topic is dropped until some more reliable information surfaces or do as sunman suggests

+1

and retire to the BBQ.

or the pub

[laserblazer]

It would appear that there are no definitive answers to the questions raised yet. Suggest the topic is dropped until some more reliable information surfaces or do as sunman suggests and retire to the BBQ.

What do mean, no reliable information? Here are two I didn't know about

Red Light 4 933 933
Red Light Rio 934 934

[widge]

Sounds like a rendezvous point for a lady of the night !

[roy4eyes]

Our son in Dubai tells us he gets all the BBC, ITV and Sky channels via an SSTP. VPN account (whatever that is !!) as do some of the hotels and bars.
Why is it then such a problem for southern europe ? - and can some of our technical experts explain what it is and what it entails.

[laserblazer]

Our son in Dubai tells us he gets all the BBC, ITV and Sky channels via an SSTP. VPN account (whatever that is !!) as do some of the hotels and bars.
Why is it then such a problem for southern europe ? - and can some of our technical experts explain what it is and what it entails.

I suspect that they have a system that provides a UK IP address which makes it looks as if they are in the UK. These are available in Portugal, I think Hemingways might use such a system. You do need a fairly fast broadband connection though.

[laserblazer]

While this is not the subject of this topic - I couldn't let it pass without commenting on the reason many people chose to leave their homeland. Is it not to embrace the culture of a new country and not inflict the depravity depicted by the 'soaps' and other so-called reality TV from their homeland on the indigenous population of their new homeland or did I get that wrong?

I suspect Portugal may have their own 'soaps' etc and they too may depict depravity - I don't know as I chose to avoid watching that sort of TV. I see no justification for the BBC or others to make provision for non-licence fee paying expats to have UK or other's TV facilities outside their own country. The argument that a licence is paid in their homeland does not in my opinion entitle anybody to shift their viewing location to another country as the licence is for that country only. if in doubt and as an example - read the small print on the UK licence, its very precise. There will be the argument, I suspect, that the Sky subscription on top of the UK TV Licence provides that 'bridge' for everybody to enjoy their TV regardless of location - clearly Sky has seen the light and pulled the 'plug'. If expats do not pay a UK TV Licence they have no right to UK TV facilities - in my opinion.

I had a telephone conversation with Sky several years ago on this matter and their party-line is that they do not provide a service outside the UK and Ireland. When I suggested they should walk past any bar showing live Football in the Algarve or Spain - they told me it was not possible. Clearly somebody from Livingstone eventually found their way to an airport, got on a plane and realised the reality - the rest is history.

I wonder how long it will be before radio streaming through the internet will be subjected to a similar type of restriction. In times of financial difficulty - every revenue generative activity will come under scrutiny and if it can create an income stream without too great a cost - the listening needs and wishes of expats will be the last thing on their minds.

Happy New Year

Providing BBC radio outside of the UK doesn't have the same obligations as TV because the BBC own most of the material that they broadcast, so it's up to them where it can be received. A lot of the TV content is bought in and the BBC/ITV paid for the rights to broadcast it in the UK. I don't suppose they give a monkeys about the revenue implications of ex-pats watching Eastenders without a licence, what they don't want is the people who sell them programmes asking for more money because they are transmitting them to the rest of Europe.

[shanagarry]

It's only a matter of time before Sky has a stand alone European Channel - available only outside the UK - just like Sky Ireland - complete with all the 'soaps' and under a separate subscription - once they get the necessary licensing sorted out

[md 600 driver]

shanagary
theres no need for sky to get a european channel as they already have sky uk sky germany sky spain sky italia theres quite a few of them already
steve

[shanagarry]

Steve - thank you.

What's to stop them expanding Sky Spain into Portugail and calling it Sky Iberia - after all they have the technology?

I am not bothered either way - I can live without TV but I am curious as to why all this has blown up now. I'm inclined to think it's for commercial reasons - Portugal is a potential revenue stream. After all they have to pay for the News International legal fees somehow

[RichardHenshall]

... What's to stop them expanding Sky Spain into Portugail and calling it Sky Iberia - after all they have the technology? ...

A different language, perhaps?

[joeysoap]

Anyone know whats available on sky Spain? I assume there's only so much content in Spanish and a lot of content would be in other languages ie English?

If you take out a sky subscription for say a year, and drop it you automatically revert to free sat. Could this also apply to sky Spain?

[pouty]

Hi,
There is a web site called FilmOn, you can get all UK programs on there in real time. It is great !!!

[Mike Burton]

Just got back from Christmas at home. Have lost ITV Yorkshire and channel 5 from our Sky box(may be others), but on our freesat system we can still get ITV Yorkshire, have never been able to get channel 5 on it bur get a channel called FIVE

[laserblazer]

I think it may be the HD ITV channel that has gone.