I'm looking for info please: renting a bar?

Debs G · Post by **Debs G** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:17 am

Oops the above reply might have sounded a bit rude. Not meant to offend anyone. I appreciate your comments.

Debs

karen · Post by **karen** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:06 pm

There will always be people out there who dwell on the negatives about starting up a business. It may be they just don't want the competition !!
It is dangerous to generalize as many of us know there are people who run successful business in Carvoeiro, they are busy in and out of the season.
At the end of the day I believe if it is the right place, right product, right time and you are right people you are in with a fighting chance to make things work. Anyone will tell you that at least 50% of new ventures in the UK fail after the first year. This is normally because they didn't do their research and got things wrong.

Gerry Cullen · Post by **Gerry Cullen** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:19 pm

Hi debs g im one of those that reckon go for it and i do have a fair idea what im talking about ive owned two bars in rural ireland for the last 15yrs in 89 we bought a pub in tipperary in a town that had the highest unemployment in the south east,....30 pubs in a town of 4000people....headline in the paper a month before we took over "death in the valley"refering to the closure of another local industry...ok so now you have the picture. we did everything we could,we dealt with suppliers so that we could do a pound a pint nite, xmas party in july,fancy dress,and a beach party in january which every one reckoned would flop and 100 folks came to see us fail blessem dozens of folks came in to see what kind of an eejit carries 3 ton of sand into to his pub in buckets for a party and back out again at three in the morning ....hundreds of gallons of water....surf boards ,the lot ,i worked six and a half days a week it was the toughest year i ever put down but thats what it took.....now these guys(well meaning) are saying that in a town like cvo ye can,t make a go of it....loads of money great weather and your biggest asset loads of other pubs,throw a party for all the bar staff in the other pubs on one of the quiet nights,go to all the offices in the area and invite the staff to after work drinks and nibbles on a friday nite,do a charity head shave for the local cats and dogs home........theres millions of opertunitys to make a splash and the quieter the time the better cos nobody else is doing anything... there will also be days when youll work 14hrs and there won,t be 20euro in the till but if you keep at it they,ll get fewer and fewer till youll find yourself nearly looking forward to them.....sorry for the rant but jaysus i just hate the knockers,and one last bit of advice don,t mind the figures of the pub your taking over thats the last owners and hes leaving.
The best of luck whatever happens

pammie · Post by **pammie** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:34 pm

Beach party in January

Wish I'd been there - would you have warmed me up?

because my itsi bitsi bikini isnt thermal

What did you do with all that water though?

Tell us more because having a hard time trying to imagine a water proofed bar

If this guy is anything like you Gerry then he should really go for it

Gerry Cullen · Post by **Gerry Cullen** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 3:46 pm

Had enough trouble keeping me own bikini covering the important bits ,most of the water left the premises soaked into the clothes of the partygoers what was left we poured down the loo and the rest soaked into the carpet,by the way it was all held in a huge paddleing pool......well for some of the time.Im really serious about the last post ....ye need to have youth and energy on your side you,ll only do it once so you have to give it your all.

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:51 pm

Hi Gerry, love the stories and I do believe you’re qualified to offer such encouragement. I hope you didn’t think I was referring to you when I said: ‘beware of the yea-go-for-it merchants who obviously don’t know what they are talking about or who they are talking to’. I thought pinkiebluesky’s advise worth taking because she does live down there and I think (TBC) she works/runs a bar/restaurant.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:03 pm

Pinkieblue sky ? Whether you runa bar or not are you he or she?lot of confusion here

Debs G · Post by **Debs G** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:28 am

Gerry's stories are great and very encouraging too!
All I can say is, yes this guy does have the brains and the personality (in my opinion) to run a successful business and I do think a bar would suit him.
I have been self-employed for quite a number of years now and I know how hard it can be so I will give him plenty of encouragement and advice (if I can I have never done anything like this).

Thanks Gerry.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:30 pm

Just go for it. If you approach it from the local bar owners way of thinking - you get watered, fed and housed then the rest is a bonus. It may be a subsistence form of work but so what you will be doing what you enjoy and yes, you will get time of to sun yourself. The u.k. is fast becoming the place to leave with all the political correctness groups, violence etc - you could do a lot worse. I see Happy's restuarant is up for sale so try that or make it into a bar!!
Oh and one of the best and probably most profitable bars - the carvoeiro bar is also on the market ( best location in town). What is it the say... if you don't put your head above the parapet!
All the best.