Tolls on the A22

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Re: Tolls on the A22

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My son is just back from his Carvoeiro holiday and said that the hire car company told him not to bother with motorway tolls !
They are apparently never followed up and, if they ( hire car company ) get fined, the fine is only 1.80€.. which they would absorb.While they were waiting for their car, his friend checked the number plates of a selection of hire cars in P4 on his mobile phone ( which has apparently got an app for doing such a thing) : almost all had toll fees outstanding. When they collected their car ( about 8pm) that also had about 10€ outstanding on it. They drove Faro to CVO on a very quiet A22 , and back (busier) ten days later without paying.
The 1.80€ fine sounds suspiciously like the daily surcharge that was mooted for hire car companies some time ago.
If he ever gets retrospectively charged, I will let you know!
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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billybee wrote:Today I went to prepay my toll charge at the post office for my journey to Seville on my way back home in my uk registered car.They recorded my reg number and gave me 3 separate receipts stapled together for a charge of 9 euros 60 cents and said to place it on the dash board.I asked them why they said if get stopped by the police????WTF
On crossing the border into Spain yesterday l noticed the sign on the other side of the road saying all foriegn vehicles entering Portugal to pay for ticket to travel on toll road with an arrow pointing to a layby were there was what looked like an auto pay machine with a Visa card displayed.I think its only a matter of time before the police will start pulling up foriegn registered cars on A22 and issueing on the spot fines.
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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Jaylay wrote:Try this as an explanation http://www.portugaldailyview.com/whats- ... onic-tolls
Unbelievable !!! The web site of course is correct but what a crock of shite :roll:
The best part is the reply section at the bottom where the comments are completely true :evil:
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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My son did exactly the same as Geoffs son. We did not get an opportunity to explain to him about the motorway tolls before he went on holiday. When he picked up his hire car the tolls were not even mentioned, so he used the motorway - to and from CVO on the first and last days of his holiday. He assumed the car had some sort of 'pass' - as they do for example in Switzerland. The car hire company returned his credit card slip at the end, so as far as I can see, they have no easy way of claiming the tolls he must have incurred, as he booked though a broker. As these will amount to €12-14 it would not be worth anyones while to pursue this.
As the summer progresses there will be many thousands of tourists just as oblivious to the tolls and how they work. Maybe, at the end of the season, when faced with thousands of euros worth of uncollected tolls owed in small amounts by thousands of individuals who have returned to their home countries, the government will re-consider either the tolls themselves or a more suitable way of collecting them. Here's hoping!
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As has already been pointed out , it doesn't really matter to the toll company whether they collect tolls or not. If they do not reach their 'agreed target' then the Portuguese tax payer makes up the difference. They are hardly going to both persuing thousands of non payers when it will be much easier just to hand one invoice to the government.
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DO NOT do as a friend of our did last week, he got the A2 and A22 payment conditions confused ( car hire companies fault he says ?? ) and drove through the Via Verde gate when joining the A2 at lisbon.
When he reached the final A2 toll booth just before the A22 junction he was presented with a 58euro charge, an expensive mistake.
This could only be paid at a multi banco .
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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EMM wrote:DO NOT do as a friend of our did last week, he got the A2 and A22 payment conditions confused ( car hire companies fault he says ?? ) and drove through the Via Verde gate when joining the A2 at lisbon.
When he reached the final A2 toll booth just before the A22 junction he was presented with a 58euro charge, an expensive mistake.
This could only be paid at a multi banco .
Tricky could tell you a story a bit like that one!! I, as her friend couldn't possibly say anything :D
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Rumaging around on google , found this about penalties :

"Failure to pay toll fees is a misdemeanour subject to a fine for all users, both domestic and foreign. The fine is 10 times the rate of toll, with a minimum of 25 euros and a maximum of 125 euros".

Be interesting to see when/if someone is fined!
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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just how exactly they are going to fine someone/anyone when they (and the hire companies) haven't got a clue who rented what and when and who actually used the road at certain times on the same day. Never happen.

its like Greeece saying they are going to pay back all the loans. never happen. :lol:
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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joeysoap wrote:just how exactly they are going to fine someone/anyone when they (and the hire companies) haven't got a clue who rented what and when and who actually used the road at certain times on the same day. Never happen.

its like Greeece saying they are going to pay back all the loans. never happen. :lol:
Agree with you regarding hire cars,but if you get stopped on the A22 driving a foriegn registered car and don't have a receipt of prepayment you are liable for a fine.You have to pre pay you can't pay 3days later as with hire cars.
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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From what I have seen so far the tolls for a foreign car without a transponder entering Portugal have to be paid at the border at an automatic machine by credit card but I cannot see any facility for cash so what happens if you don't have a credit card ? - go home? :roll:
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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If you come in from Seville just take the first exit to Castro Marim before the first toll cameras and use the 125 if you do not want to pay or do not have a credit card. Not sure yet about other entry points further North. At least something is being done to enable non Pt. registered vehicles to pay as they go. So long as it is up and running before September I will be quite happy to use the EASYtoll system. Hope the Spanish feel the same and start coming back to put vital money into the Algarve economy!
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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DaveK wrote:. Hope the Spanish feel the same and start coming back to put vital money into the Algarve economy!
Sadly this might be wishful thinking. From purely anecdotal evidence I think there will be less Spanish tourists this summer due to the economic situation there plus these toll problems.
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Re: Tolls on the A22

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You obviously have not seen the amount of Spanish cars here at the moment
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