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Sharen Crane
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Post by Sharen Crane »

To be frank with you Graham I really can't be bothered to queue so I will never be a panic buyer in any way shape or form. :lol:

Hope you manage to find fuel and that you don't have the annoyance of a three hour hike each way tomorrow :wink:
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Post by Graham »

agree with you on the queuing.

Good news is that I have put my jouney into traveline - the public transport planner, and it gives a total journey time of 2 hours six minutes (3 walks, two buses and two trains to cover twenty miles)

The bad news is that to get here by eight tomorrow morning I should have left at ten past one this afternoon!!
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Post by tbbr »

Although I am in full agreement over the anti atititude towards the" opportunistic " atitude of governments ( not just UK ) towards fuel taxes I wonder where else goverments are supposed to get revenue from??

Do we want VAT 30% or income tax of 30% at least with fuel we have a degree of choice, drive slower, less often, more efficient vehicles.

We all want a cleaner world, less pollution, global warming, RAIN!!! sooner or late we will all have to face the fact that as motorists we will pay one way or another.

DON,T waste your time thniking that fuel protests will have any effect.

In two years time we may be paying £1.50 litre and looking back at todays price with envy.
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Post by pm »

[quote="Sharen Crane"] I think it has a lot to do with the Government and their greed that we are yet again paying through the nose and are in the middle of bloody mayhem/quote]

The government are greedy are they? Do you really think that is how tax works? Do you think 'bloody mayhem' means a slightly longer queue at Asda than usual.

High tax on fuel is important to reduce consumption and hence global warming etc etc. Even the Americans seem to be coming round to that opinion, at least according to an article on msnbc
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[quote="tbbr"]Although I am in full agreement over the anti atititude towards the" opportunistic " atitude of governments ( not just UK ) towards fuel taxes I wonder where else goverments are supposed to get revenue from??

From all the people who duck and dive and allow the rest of us to pay through the nose to support them. Some of which I daresay will tell the rest of us "that they know their rights" and will I suspect be those that moan because they cant get a bed in a state hospital when they need it, but would not give a thought to someone's Gran in a hospital corridor. Then you have the other end of the scale, but I won't go there for a moan today, I'll save that for a raining day :evil: :evil: :evil: Did I say rainy day ...in the Algarve :wink: :wink: must leave that J.Pires alone.
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Post by martin »

as i stared this thread about the fact that high petrol price does not seem to effect its use ..people carry on driving at 1XXXXX who knows..in fact what only seems to effect peoples consumption is when as last time there was a petrol crisis and the stuff was in short supply (and yes that day WILL come )

I mentioned on one posting some time ago that at one petrol station I paid 95 cent a litre for petrol, but also bought a 25 ccl bottle of aqua castelo water for 75 cents,..so it is worth thinking that with all the huge taxes and the billions made each day by shell etc it is cheaper to drink petrol than water!!
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Post by Perry Stalsis »

"Is the government greedy?". Arguable, I'd say. Certainly wasteful and inept. Certainly not driven by the moral imperative to cut fuel usage or they'd be doing more to find alternatives. Gordon Brown's speech today demanded that OPEC increase production to maintain supply. With 67p of every litre going direct to the Exchequer I think that's arrant hypocrisy by any measure. It doesn't indicate a burning desire to cut domestic consumption either. The revenue all governments raise on tobacco is another example of their really not being fussy where they get their money from.
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