is it me, but for a wine producing and drinking country I cant say that I have ever seen a villa here with a wine celler (unlike say France):

is it because the wine does not keep, or perhaps more truthfully is it that they drink it too quick!

any comments?

Probably doesnt lay well

probably true

Maybe theyre not worth keeping unlike Port of course.

Hi Martin. I do have a Portuguese friend in Alcantarilha with a wine cellar but you are right, this is very rare. I don't think the Portuguese really appreciate their wine. I am sure someone will correct me if they think I am wrong, but most of my Portuguese friends seem to drink beer and think I am weird when I drink wine, other than with a meal. They shriek "vinho" at me, when I ask for it in a bar. I have been to some houses, where they have served wine to me in coca-cola plastic bottles and in a tumbler glass..yuk!!!!

You don't get wine bars down here do you? Lisboa have a few in the Bairro Alto, which remind me of the ones you get in Italy or Spain.

yes ..of course thats why port started because the wine had to be fortified with spirits to keep and to travel

yes the only cellar I heard of was mbutos little porches pad, im sure the poor of the congo would llike to see what there dead corrupt leader was doing with their countries money

martin wrote:is it me, but for a wine producing and drinking country I cant say that I have ever seen a villa here with a wine celler

Does a cave count Martin

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