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Golf....

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:05 pm
by cowboy
Spain's eco-golfers aim to drive the brown

Giles Tremlett in Madrid
Wednesday August 10, 2005
The Guardian

As golfing tourists drive down freshly watered green fairways this summer, while the rest of Spain endures a devastating drought, a crusading eco-golfer has opened the country's first water-free course.

Paco López, a sports lecturer at a Madrid university, has designed a course that twists through dried-out grassland and past autochthonous trees, shrubs and aromatic herbs near the town of Quijorna, 20 miles west of Madrid.

Inspired by the first courses on linksland in Scotland and concerned about the sustainability of the 20 water-guzzling courses a year being built for tourists on the Spanish costas, he hopes the eco-golf concept will catch on.

"You only have to look at the origins of golf to realise that it was played in natural environments," he said. "In a country like Spain, with such a dramatic lack of water, we are proposing a new and different way of doing things."

His nine-hole course, owned by Quijorna's town council, has replaced greens with "browns". Greens may be added later, when the course is extended to 18 holes, but only these and the approaches would be watered - requiring between 5% and 10% of the water of a conventional course.

Mr López said the concept would allow golfers to appreciate real landscape. "The idea here is not just to enjoy the sport and take exercise but also to have contact with real nature and incorporate the idea of sustainable development."

The WWF (formerly the World Wide Fund for Nature) has said that the hundreds of golf courses around the Mediterranean are a growing environmental hazard, with each consuming the same amount of water as a town of 12,000 people.

Although most golf courses in Spain are meant to use recycled water, Greenpeace claims that only two out of 28 in the Madrid region do so. Local water authorities began disciplinary procedures against 10 of the courses for illegal use of water earlier this summer.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:53 pm
by Guest
well great news...but the thing about "golf courses" is that really its nothing to do with the game...they build courses so they can sell expensive plots of land and build villas where you would not dare use an electic drill or put your washing out.

then of course comes the "manitenence charges" which are far more than any "normal" place.

in essesence they are for those who enjoy a "stepford" life and like holidays in "westworld" where the little electric triolleys move around making everything calm ...everything is calm.

there was a superb photo in a sports newspaper on sunday in lisbon.

two golfers playing while in the background like a nuclear explosion were fires burning all and sundry in their path

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:15 am
by cowboy
Anonymous wrote:well great news...but the thing about "golf courses" is that really its nothing to do with the game...they build courses so they can sell expensive plots of land and build villas where you would not dare use an electic drill or put your washing out.
Ah yes, I forgot about that aspect.

In the South West of the US, they are called "Retirement Communities".

Then their are places like Aspin, Colorado.

It was so beautiful there, that everyone who had made their money somewhere else (you couldn't make what they called a living off the local economy) wanted to live there.

Land prices skyrocked, as did the cost of living, and soon reached the point that the locals couldn't afford to live there and had to move to towns further out and commute to Aspin to work.
(they were the ones who were the police, firefighters, grounds keepers, cooks, waitresses, bar tenders, matinance crews, ect.)

As more and more people with money moved into the area, the outlying towns became too expensive to live in and the locals had to move even further away.

It finaly got too expensive to commute to Aspin to work.
(their's are low paying jobs to begin with)

Now, one of the main topics of conversation in Aspin is how hard it is to find good help these days.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:03 am
by djprescott
Anonymous wrote:well great news...but the thing about "golf courses" is that really its nothing to do with the game...they build courses so they can sell expensive plots of land and build villas where you would not dare use an electic drill or put your washing out.

then of course comes the "manitenence charges" which are far more than any "normal" place.

in essesence they are for those who enjoy a "stepford" life and like holidays in "westworld" where the little electric triolleys move around making everything calm ...everything is calm.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

tbbr

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:20 am
by tbbr
I understand that the first course in the Algarve ( nr Penina ) was a brown
so it could be done, however as we do here in the uk only the greens and immediate areas need be watered therest just well maintained.

Would make the game interesting would,nt it.
As to retirement communities we have heard amazing stories about some in florida where under 50<s are not allowed to live and visiting family members ( grandchildren ) cannot stay over night.

We have also spend some time in Colorado and know place slike Aspen quite well.

Do you know that you cannoty buy a pair of underpants in town you have to travel over 20 miles to the neares wallmart to buy anything like that.
V Expensive underwear yes but the basics of life certainly not.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:52 am
by cowboy
Do you know that you cannoty buy a pair of underpants in town you have to travel over 20 miles to the neares wallmart to buy anything like that.
V Expensive underwear yes but the basics of life certainly not.
tbbr, I don't know how much more basic you can get than underwear.... :lol:

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:59 am
by tbbr
I suspect that all the snow bunnies in Aspen go "commando "

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:10 am
by cowboy
tbbr wrote:I suspect that all the snow bunnies in Aspen go "commando "
I can live with that.