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Portimao Race Track
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:17 pm
by tbbr
Article in latest " Essential Algarve " magazine indicating that construction will start this autumn , development will include 5 star hotel etc, etc
Track will be acredited for full F1 GP motorbike races..
Can anyone confirm this ??
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:48 pm
by bife73
I can't confirm this, but it has been the gossip for quite a while now!!! So you never know.... We could do with a couple more international attractions for the Algarve.
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:31 pm
by pm
What's an F1 motorbike?
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:11 pm
by tbbr
There is a feature in the Resident, see
www.algarvenet.com.
In addition to GP level bike races track can also be used for F1 testing.
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:38 pm
by pm
I don't reckon three sentences all in atrocious English constitute a feature. I have not found a single reference to anything at all on any motorsport fan site, which is surprising.
Smoke and mirrors job I reckon. Somebody trying to talk up the value of his land possibly?
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:38 am
by Bruce Wallis
Ohh goody. That could mean work for me...and I could live at home instead of travelling all over the place!

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:35 pm
by tbbr
I have no strong views one way or the other but surely there must be something to the feature in Mays Portugal Magazine ( p 7 ).
Track will be FIA approved etc.
No doubt those who live in the area wil be able to confirm if and when construction starts.
Also featured in the Spring edition of Algarve Essential magazine, Monte Santo and Val of Olive Developments both in Carvoerio.
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:41 pm
by Ellie
Oh Yippeee

Will there be anything left 'to develop' soon?!
'They' won't be happy until all the natural countryside has disappeared beneath concrete and clay / evermore golf courses?
sorry but it saddens me

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:15 pm
by tbbr
Just read the " Stork blogs " on the resident page where reference is made to parts of the Algarve as being the poorest in Portugal and among the poorest in Europe.
This being the case do we much more comfortably off, some with two homes, good holidays etc have any rights to deprive the portuguese of the economic benefits we enjoy.
If one of the costs of this is more development providing income and employment who are we to say that it is wrong.
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:24 pm
by Ellie
Oh come off it ! The Portuguese poor won't see the 'benefit ' of it and I don't think they ever have..
see all the building in Lagoa but you still see plenty of poverty!
Money goes to money! Pockets are lined..still lotta corruption
Quite honestly I think its a load of crap about 'benefiting' the poor..those that say that are only saying so to 'clear' their conscience!
You aware of the average wage for Portuguese? Lucky if they clear 400 euros a month....
will 'they ' be able to afford the likes of whats going on up at Vila Nova? what a joke
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:01 pm
by tbbr
Of course the local Portuguese will not be able to buy at Villa Nov and others ( nor probably would they want to ).
But ask,
How many jobs is it providing.
Where is the Steel, cement, bricks, etc, etc , doors, windows so on and so on manufactured.
This too provides much work and income within Portugal.
At least developments like this, vale of Olives and " most " others in the Algarve are not on the scale or height of those in Spain.
It was lack of employment and opportunity that drove the Portuguese in their tens of thousands to work in the factories and fields of northern Europe.
Given the choice I wonder where they would rather be ???
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:03 pm
by Ellie
Where would they rather be?
Well from those I know of here in Lincs..this is where they would rather be,earning better wages and most that we know are certainly happy living here
Tbbr, its not merely myself getting upset at what goes on there, but I speak for Portuguese friends that I know and who are getting upset at what is happening to their Algarve homeland. It isn't 'guess work' on my part but whats been told to me.
Ive had friends there tell me how disturbed they are by it all and they seem helpless to stop it. But I also know one or two who get angry because their own people are apathetic and don't kick back.
Believe me when I say, there is growing resentment.
Its funny you should mention Spain..I was only this morning speaking to a lady who'd just returned from living there. and was glad to be back in UK. She said it had become a 'little England' where she was living.
In our time of living in Algarve, we were very aware of the 'patronising' manner used to the Portuguese people by expats & those from other nations...people who went there & 'lorded' it! that they were doing the locals a big favour
When you 'really' get to know the people, you will find they are in general kind, friendly & helpful(least thats what Ive always found)
I simply want them to have a fairer deal thats all.......and also pray that at the end of it all (developments..) that there will be SOME countryside left to speak of.
p.s.A little point of interest..2 of our Portuguese carpenter lads ended up living and working in Germany,enjoying a better standard of living.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:56 pm
by Globetrotter
Actually, the government should support the development of technology parks, universities, and better high schools. This will lead to a higher standard of living through increased wages, better trained individuals, and will attract foreign investment. Wholesale support for resorts and tourism only leads to jobs for construction, landscape maintenance, and lower paid hospitality workers. All the profit from resorts is disappearing to bank accounts abroad.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:37 pm
by bubbles
I really wouldnt be worrying about loosing all the countryside here, have you looked further north recently, there is plenty there.
I know of several Portuguese families who left the idilic countryside to come to the Algarve to work and I can assure you that those on the poverty line really dont care if they have a nice view of fields and livestock etc, they have other more pressing things on their minds.
Those that came to the Algarve often left homes, land and livestock to ruin because it is simply not cost effective here to work the land. The EU has made it clear that the Algarve is to be dedicated to tourism and golf and has put money in to develop these aspects, farming is left to Spain etc and the Portuguese import food instead. The reality is that Portugal would be unable to sustain its own population on homeland production of food alone. The result of this is that the countryside in the area is actually useless to the people that live here for anything but selling it for large sums of money to keen developers.
I have to say that the next generation of Portueguse, generally those born post revolution, are not simpering folk too afraid to challenge authority. From what I have seen many are educated and informed and politically aware. These are people who would be appalled to here that we Brits almost "pity" them for their low wages and standards of living. The Portuguese are fiercly proud and patriotic and the ones I know working in the UK are simply there to earn enough money to be able to buy a nice place over here. Unlike many Brits they love their country and aren´t nearly as hung up as we are about "all the bloody foreigners". Perhaps instead of worrying about the state they have to live in we should be listening to how the Portuguese view the Brits and Britain, did it ever occur to anyone that they may well pity us instead (Rising crime, moral void, lack of community, social inequality etc)?
I have spoken with many people at length about their views on development and the general opinion seems to be that development = tourists =money, after all, thats what makes the world go round doesn´t it?
I don´t mean to get on my high horse about this, no, scrap that, I do!!

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:07 pm
by Dust Devil
You seem to know a lot about almost every subject on here.