Don't forget your factura/recibo

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Don't forget your factura/recibo

Post by R.Wethereyet »

Yet another ludicrous law has been passed by the government.

Following on from the introduction of computerised cash registers in all businesses to assist the finances in checking income and receipts, they have now decided to pass the onus of proof of payment for goods and services onto the consumer.

Now if you purchase anything from a cup of coffee to a car, you must ask for a receipt of payment and keep it handy.

Why? because the finances and law enforcement agencies can now stop you when exiting a business and ask you to prove payment and receipt for the goods and services you have just purchased.

If you can't prove payment, YOU will be fined.

So, for example, if you have a night out and travel by taxi into town you must get a receipt from the driver, you visit a couple of bars and pay for each round of drinks you have as you go, you must again keep your receipts. You then go and enjoy a meal, and don't forget to ask for a receipt and keep it, you go buy a packet of cigarettes and some chewing gum, get a receipt, you go back into a bar for a night cap, you guessed it, keep your receipt, and put it with the others from earlier. Finally you get a taxi home, receipt.

Now armed with your intermarche carrier bag full of receipts, you can safely walk into your home knowing you have abided by the law.

Oh I forgot, did you keep your receipt for 2 cents for the carrier bag.
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Now come on - all us bar/restaurants owners have just had to pay out €1500 for a new till so finanças can come in at any time to check our sales, submit our month end figures and to be able to produce the new facturas/recibos.

Please give us a chance to make use of them now :lol: :wink: :roll:

PS. Sorry but if we don't laugh about it we would cry :D :cry:
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No receipts for your two penneth here. :shock: :roll:
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On Portuguese news tonight. Somehow some of the population have gotten hold of the Prime Minister and other key ministers fiscal numbers, possibly through Facebook or other media and giving their numbers to the issuers of legal facturas. Result is so far the key ministers have spending of 1.6 million Euros this year on coffee, cakes, hair do's, taxis, lunches etc. By law the Finances have to investigate cases of people spending more than their declared earnings. It will go nowhere but you have to admire the sentiment
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It appears their politicos are no better than ours, head in the trough and spend tax payers money willynilly. :roll:
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If they are not careful the stupid politicians and law makers in Portugal are going to wipe every business out!! Look what the tolls have done to the A22 petrol stations/shops. Water bills have trebled in the past couple of months. How can they be so blind?
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DO NOT even get me started on this..... :evil: :cry: :x
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Our last waterbill was 9 euros , does not look like it has trebled to us.

The Portuguese minister of justice has said that these checks are illegal and if stopped by the tax police consumers should ask for their search warrant, right and left hand ??
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Unless these tax spy's are sitting in the bar/restuarants how do they if you've eaten or drunk something you might have popped in to check a menu,book a table or looking for a mate.What they going to do drive you off to the nearest hospital and open up your belly and check..unbelievable
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Post by sunman »

If I were filling my newly tiled pool I'd be getting on with it before the men in spectacles & brown suits started looking over my wall and inquiring who did the work.
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sunman wrote:If I were filling my newly tiled pool I'd be getting on with it before the men in spectacles & brown suits started looking over my wall and inquiring who did the work.
Heard that they were recently spotted in the Centiannes area allegedly chasing up a tip off from a member of the public :)
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Yet another thing for the poor unsuspecting tourist to be hit with - fines for unpaid road tolls they did not know about and then fines for not getting a receipt. Another nail in the coffin for tourism.
Are they going to follow builders, plumbers, electricians etc around and fine householders? What about market stalls, and those people who sell oranges (and other more intimate pleasures) at the side of the roads?
Do they really think this stupid law will stop the black market? People will just get more inventive about how to by-pass the laws.
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Last day for businesses to send inn there January takings to the finances.
Or SAFT as its called.
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EMM wrote:Our last waterbill was 9 euros , does not look like it has trebled to us.

The Portuguese minister of justice has said that these checks are illegal and if stopped by the tax police consumers should ask for their search warrant, right and left hand ??
Well you are lucky ours definitely has taken a great big jump.
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pointersister wrote:If they are not careful the stupid politicians and law makers in Portugal are going to wipe every business out!! Look what the tolls have done to the A22 petrol stations/shops. Water bills have trebled in the past couple of months. How can they be so blind?

Previouly if you had no water usage or just as likely the camera didn't read the meter the flat monthly standing charge was €2.01.
With the new bills this has increased to €7.67

Postby EMM
Our last waterbill was 9 euros , does not look like it has trebled to us.
Looks like your usage (or meter reading)is 1 for the month which now costs €9.03
previously the charge for a reading of 1 was €3.12

The more you use the less the percentage increases as the usage dilutes the increased 'standing' charges. There is however quite a substantial increase in the 'Aguas Residuas' which will drive up bills of those on heavier usage. And an even steeper increase in the 'Residua Urbanos' which is based on water usage even if you recycle most items. I can fully understand why BW would try and fill his pool with bought in water, as the charge for both those latter services would increase his water bill by a lot more than the cost of filling the pool.

** see BW has decided to run with the Lagoa camera to fill his pool as still cheaper than alternatives**
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